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Dave911911
2 years, 5 months ago
So, I'm looking at the idle blog posts - some haven't been commented upon in months and new threads have very few posts. This leads me to think that Wilkow has jumped the shark. Frankly, his juvenile rants and tantrums on air show that he is nothing but a spoiled brat. One can only imagine what he like in real life. He probably is a wuss. He needs a microphone and callers to agree with him to feel like a man. The kicker is that he thinks that Glenn Beck is going to launch his career. Does any one actually subscribe to that mess?
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
Granted, he's not Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh... or even Car Talk.... but I'm sure he's holding his own on Patriot. He's got a job and he's working for a living... So what if what he says is mostly inaccurate -- he's having a good time. Let the man be...
Dave911911
2 years, 5 months ago
Yes, he is having a good time, but at what cost? I remember several months ago he called Huma Abedin a "sand schwartza". Is this fun to him? This is vile speech and he needs to be called out on this and many other pernicious statements he makes almost daily. Marnesdad, I have seen your postings. You appear to be the voice of reason in these forums. I would hope that you can see that his type of rhetoric has no place in the market place of ideas. At least not where good people are trying to make a difference and better the world.
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
Wilkow is harmless. His arguments are tired, his embellishments are practically patented, and his effect on serious national discourse is non-existent. He tries too hard to be controversial, and, as we all know, it's the people who DON'T TRY to say inflamatory things that are actually controversial. His audience is the "believer set" -- those that don't need to be convinced of anything in order to be entertained. He's not capable of changing minds. Nothing to worry about here...
nav68
2 years, 5 months ago
Any comments Wilkow chooses to make are welcome in a free society. You have no trouble dealing with Wilkow's tendency to rant at times. It doesn't alter your perspective. Assume that others who listen to him can do the same. I would take all radio talk show hosts with a grain of salt. But they certainly have a place in the national debate. As for good people trying to make a difference and better the world, that is purely opinion. A lot of people who so describe themselves are also people who believe that they should be the ones to decide who is who.
Dave911911
2 years, 5 months ago
Is he really adding to the national debate? I really doubt that. Is there a place for racism in this day and age? I do agree that all hosts should be taken with a pillar of salt. I don't agree with you on you statement that it is my opinion that good people are trying to make a difference. History proves that to be true and current times prove that as well. Personally, I think that Paul Ryan is a good person, I do not agree with his budget, but I believe that he is attempting to move the conversation forward. If you believe that he is essentially good then you negate your premise that it is my opinion and that he is a good person or there are good people trying to do good things.
nav68
2 years, 5 months ago
I agree that there are good people trying to do good thgings. My idea about who and what might be different than yours. History, on that subject, is far from agreement. As to racism, I guess you'll have to define that. For some, racism is anything they don't like. I think that if racism is going to be addressed by the government, it has to be addressed evenly. That is not the case now, nor has it ever been. BTW, beware of "do-gooders". They usually don't.
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
Dave, Wilkow is not a racist. He hates people based on what they THINK, not what color they are. He hates white liberals just as much as he hates black ones, and he hates rich white liberals just as much as he hates poor black ones... Wilkow is not racially intolerant, he's ideologically intolerant. And, no... absolutely not.... Wilkow is NOT 'adding' to the national debate. He and many others (on both sides) are harming the national debate with this partisan, embellished, nerver-ending noise. You can't claim to be adding to the national debate on serious topics when you don't understand the serious topics... or, even worse, you're so bad at debate that you need to make stuff up in order to try to convince someone of something. Truth be told, while I can name five or six rightwing windbags who don't contribute squat to helpful national discourse, I can name two or three conservatives who are up to the task... I can't say the same about the Left.
Dave911911
2 years, 5 months ago
Marnesdad, I know you don't think so, but that remake he made about Huma says otherwise. Thoughts?
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
I've heard Wilkow try to say things that he hopes are controversial. That's what you do when you're an obscure figure in a group competing for a limited audience. He and that loud little fella who always screams "there, I said it" are both doing everything they can to try and come up on legitimate radar. If Wilkow seems 'racist', it's because he wants to seem that way. He'll always maintain that plausible deniability by staying on the edge while enjoying rolling in the victimhood your accusations provide for him.
rollinghills
2 years, 5 months ago
"One can only imagine what he like in real life. He probably is a wuss" I looked at his facebook awhile ago from when he was on honeymoon I think. He has pretty big guy you could tell at the time he was going to the gym pretty often and he used to play Ice Hockey. He most likely avoids confrontation but I'm pretty sure if you faced each other off in Ice Hockey he'd destroy you. It's a stupid arguement to have though.....You're most likely upset he calls the punks who riot and destroy other peoples stuff whimps and liberals in general weak. He is right though most liberals I meet can be considered "Whiny bitches" Being a long term listener to Wilkow coming up on maybe 5 years now I can say he is anything but a spoiled brat. He has worked very hard for what he has and I hope he contiunes to have success in everything he does. I have learned a lot about his life and how he talks about working 3 jobs is always usually interesting. Especially the strip club stories. "Does any one actually subscribe to that mess?" Apprently they do....If you used google like I did you'd find he has anywhere between 200 000 - 300 000 subs with a projected revenue of around 20 million dollars. Honestly hate Glenn all you want but he is doing the whole "American Dream" thing and running a buisness that creates jobs. Wilkow is a good talk show host and a lot of what he says I can't find fault with. I've read the forums for the past few days and see lots of posts by Marnesdad hating on wilkow and saying he is wrong etc. But Wilkow sends out his sources to people so they can double check and tries his best to make sure his sources arne't "right wing" When I see Marnesdad post he doesn't use any sources and I can't really take what he is trying to say seriously without any kind of credentials or unbaised source.
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
How is pointing out where Wilkow is wrong 'hating on' him? Everything I write is detailed and indisputable. Just because Wilkow includes the articles he skims and misunderstands doesn't make him correct. Take his comment that a Cadillac and a Chrysler 300 are equivalent luxury cars... wrong. Unemployment is actually getting worse if you count the people who have given up looking for work? Wrong... General Motors isn't the number one car maker in the world? Wrong... GM success comes from the government buying their products? Wrong.... Oil production in this country is not up? Wrong.... This guy is hardly ever correct. Feel free to challenge me on anything I've shown Wilkow to be wrong at.
rollinghills
2 years, 5 months ago
See marnesdad this is why I have a problem beleiving you. You say this<........unemployment is actually getting worse if you count the people who have given up looking for work? Wrong....> Where is your link? Where is your unbaised source? There is a reason in court people can't just come off the street and say they're an expert witniss. Everything you state is your opionion. The thing about the cars prove to me they aren't the same? I'm middle class I've never owned a luxury car. Prove to me how one is better or worse than the other. Both are luxury cars no?..............................................>Oil production in this country is not up? Wrong.<............................ I think you didnt understand Andrew or only heard him during one of his rants and didn't explain himself correctly. I have heard him talking about it when he is calm and he has always said that oil production is DOWN ON PUBLIC LANDS. Sure the production could be the same and from what I googled on the topic production is about the same. As this link shows: http://www.indexmundi.com/energy.aspx?country=us&product=oil&graph=production http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2012/apr/02/rob-portman/rob-portman-says-oil-production-public-lands-was-d/ >That leaves us here: Portman’s fact was accurate: There was a 14 percent drop on public lands. Everything else can be teased out and spun for either party’s purposes. Under PolitiFact guidelines, when a statement is accurate but needs clarification or additional information, it rates a Truth-o-Meter rating of Mostly True. So for oil production Wilkow is correct.
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
Where is my link? Go to the Bureau of Labor Statistics and look up the 'U5' measurement of unemployment. The U5 measures unemployment and counts discouraged and marginally attached. It was 10.7 in July of last year, and now stands at 9.6. Here's the link if you need to be shown how to access public easily obtained public information ... http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsatabs.htm .... And, this is not 'opinion'. Wilkow said that the Obama campaign was dissing Romney for driving a Cadillac when Obama drove a Chrysler 300... Wilkow SAID that these were equivalent luxury cars. That's wrong. Cadillacs cost about $60K, and 300's cost about $26K... Again, not opinion... FACT. As for oil, the government doesn't produce any oil... companies do. Where they choose to PRODUCE MORE OIL now is irrelevant. 2011 saw the third largest lease sale in history. Show me where the oil companies have complained that they want to produce more, but need more land, and you and Wilkow won't be talking out of your asses. And, 'no' production is NOT the same. Domestic production DECLINED in every year of the Bush Administration to levels not seen since the 1940s. Since Obama took office, production has increased every year. Here's your link... http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_crd_crpdn_adc_mbblpd_a.htm .... Wilkow isn't 'correct' at all.... hardly ever is....
nav68
2 years, 5 months ago
marnedad, the way you get on Wilkow you kinda sound like him. "Everything I write is detailed and indisputable"? Sounds a lot like Wilkow's "prefectly executed political anaysis...the arguments here cannot be broken."
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
I laugh every time I hear that from him... "Perfectly executed political analysis" from someone who thinks news articles and editorials (which are only what someone else thinks happened) are a basis for a substantive argument. Has Wilkow ever sent links out to an actual information source? Nope. He's living proof that the game of "telephone" is alive and well and just as silly and entertaining as it was when we were kids!
nav68
2 years, 5 months ago
I like listening to Wilkow and generally agree with him, although he does like to paint in black and white in re the Constitution and some other things. But I also think that if someone from, like, Occupy, confronted him physically he'd whip the .45 out and, uh, shoot - twice - if you know what I mean. I really hope that's talk because that attitude taken to the street can cause real problems.
marnesdad
2 years, 5 months ago
It's not Wilkow's point of view I have a problem with. It's his choice to base his arguments in nonsense rather than taking the time to research and present a truly substantive argument. His standard has become reading someone's statement on a particular issue, deciding that this is what that person 'means', and then doing an entire show on why that person is a communist, socialist, anarchist, progressive, etc. etc... For example, a Democrat strategist points out that Romney's wife probably doesn't have a solid basis for claiming that the #1 women's issue today is the American economy... because Romney's wife has never worked a day in her life... To Wilkow, this means that 'democrats' don't believe that stay-at-home Moms are useful. Another example is a Supreme Court Justice talking about constitutions in other countries, and that more modern constitutions address more modern issues (obviously). To Wilkow, this justice has broken her oath. Another full hour on something that was never said... Time and time again I find myself listening to the clips Wilkow presents and then hearing him whine about stuff that the person never said... Wilkow's not black and white at all... he's just trying to paint with whatever color makes his argument seem structured...

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